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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 07:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My insurance for mental health services is so bad about paying claims that the large mental health group where my therapist is located pulled out even before their renewal time was due.  When I spoke to the billing dept., the lady said that my ins. co.&#039;s service was so poor &amp; they just didn&#039;t want to have to waste so much time trying to deal w/them.

Tell me about it! I&#039;ve spent hours every month on the phone telling them why they should be covering claims that they have denied.  This has been going on for years so when this happened &amp; I would now have to pay &quot;out-of-network&quot; fees for my therapist, it was the last straw.  I was going to be punished for the substandard service of this ins.co.

I wrote up a letter describing all the difficulties I&#039;d been having w/this co. over the years (not only being denied claims that should have been covered but treated rudely on the phone when I tried to get the claims paid for that were allowed in my policy).  I also had documented all my phone calls w/dates &amp; who I had spoken to (some of these bozos were so-called &quot;supervisors&quot; who didn&#039;t seem to understand the policies from their own company.  I was continually having to explain my coverage to them).

I had my husband email this letter to the H.R. dept. of his company through which we get our insurance.  It is a very large company &amp; within a few hours, my husband had heard back from some bigwig apologizing &amp; saying that he would be addressing these issues w/the ins. co.

I got a call from the ins. co. soon after &amp; SUDDENLY I was their top priority &amp; now have my very own personal representative w/a direct phone line to call every time I file a claim.  And they are going to continue to consider my therapist &quot;in network&quot; so I won&#039;t have to pay out-of-network prices.  I think the ins. co. thought I would be very pleased w/this &quot;special&quot; treatment, but actually I still expressed that while my &quot;situation&quot; seemed to be resolved it was too bad that all the other employees of my husband&#039;s company could not have the same &quot;deal&quot; as I did &amp; that they had to be treated w/the scorn &amp; rudeness that I had had to endure so long as they didn&#039;t have their own private representative simply because they had not YET complained about the poor service &amp; unprofessionalism of this company.  (Yeah, by this time I was pretty riled up &amp; it is hard to get my unriled!)  They would be paying out-of-network prices or have to find another mental health care provider.  It irks me that an ins. co. can basically dictate whether you can go to the provider who gives you the care that most fits your needs.  I have no doubt there are many people from my husband&#039;s company or family members that this will affect as this is a very large corporation w/many mental health services providing care for the very low-functioning to the rather high-functioning (which I am some days!).

By the way, I am a big fan of your Bipolar Beat/Blog &amp; Bipolar Disorder for Dummies book &amp; live near you in Indiana! I just realized that after reading this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My insurance for mental health services is so bad about paying claims that the large mental health group where my therapist is located pulled out even before their renewal time was due.  When I spoke to the billing dept., the lady said that my ins. co.&#8217;s service was so poor &amp; they just didn&#8217;t want to have to waste so much time trying to deal w/them.</p>
<p>Tell me about it! I&#8217;ve spent hours every month on the phone telling them why they should be covering claims that they have denied.  This has been going on for years so when this happened &amp; I would now have to pay &#8220;out-of-network&#8221; fees for my therapist, it was the last straw.  I was going to be punished for the substandard service of this ins.co.</p>
<p>I wrote up a letter describing all the difficulties I&#8217;d been having w/this co. over the years (not only being denied claims that should have been covered but treated rudely on the phone when I tried to get the claims paid for that were allowed in my policy).  I also had documented all my phone calls w/dates &amp; who I had spoken to (some of these bozos were so-called &#8220;supervisors&#8221; who didn&#8217;t seem to understand the policies from their own company.  I was continually having to explain my coverage to them).</p>
<p>I had my husband email this letter to the H.R. dept. of his company through which we get our insurance.  It is a very large company &amp; within a few hours, my husband had heard back from some bigwig apologizing &amp; saying that he would be addressing these issues w/the ins. co.</p>
<p>I got a call from the ins. co. soon after &amp; SUDDENLY I was their top priority &amp; now have my very own personal representative w/a direct phone line to call every time I file a claim.  And they are going to continue to consider my therapist &#8220;in network&#8221; so I won&#8217;t have to pay out-of-network prices.  I think the ins. co. thought I would be very pleased w/this &#8220;special&#8221; treatment, but actually I still expressed that while my &#8220;situation&#8221; seemed to be resolved it was too bad that all the other employees of my husband&#8217;s company could not have the same &#8220;deal&#8221; as I did &amp; that they had to be treated w/the scorn &amp; rudeness that I had had to endure so long as they didn&#8217;t have their own private representative simply because they had not YET complained about the poor service &amp; unprofessionalism of this company.  (Yeah, by this time I was pretty riled up &amp; it is hard to get my unriled!)  They would be paying out-of-network prices or have to find another mental health care provider.  It irks me that an ins. co. can basically dictate whether you can go to the provider who gives you the care that most fits your needs.  I have no doubt there are many people from my husband&#8217;s company or family members that this will affect as this is a very large corporation w/many mental health services providing care for the very low-functioning to the rather high-functioning (which I am some days!).</p>
<p>By the way, I am a big fan of your Bipolar Beat/Blog &amp; Bipolar Disorder for Dummies book &amp; live near you in Indiana! I just realized that after reading this article.</p>
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		<title>By: STAN G</title>
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		<dc:creator>STAN G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS TO DRIVE ALMOST ONE HUNDRED
MILES FOR CLINIC AND ALMOST SIXTY MILES FOR HOSPITAL. HE GETS HIS INSURANCE THROUGH HIS EMPLOYMENT AT A NATIONAL CHAIN RESTAURANT. THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS WELL KNOWN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS TO DRIVE ALMOST ONE HUNDRED<br />
MILES FOR CLINIC AND ALMOST SIXTY MILES FOR HOSPITAL. HE GETS HIS INSURANCE THROUGH HIS EMPLOYMENT AT A NATIONAL CHAIN RESTAURANT. THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS WELL KNOWN.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Stu. I really don&#039;t understand why the AMA doesn&#039;t spearhead something. I hear doctors constantly complain about insurance, and whenever I spend any time in a doctor&#039;s (or dentist&#039;s) office, I hear and watch constant insurance &quot;transactions&quot; - desk help asking for insurance cards, copying cards, having patients update their insurance info, calling insurance companies for pre-authorization, and on and on. 

I&#039;m not a proponent of monopolies, but it seems like it&#039;d be a lot easier and require less work (and the associated cost) to have everything standardized. You&#039;d still need some sort of checks and balances to keep doctors and patients from taking undue advantage of the system, but I bet a lot of what we pay in health insurance is going toward paying for inefficiency.

In addition, I think if the system were standardized, it would take this huge hassle off the doctors&#039; plate, so they could focus on treating patients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Stu. I really don&#8217;t understand why the AMA doesn&#8217;t spearhead something. I hear doctors constantly complain about insurance, and whenever I spend any time in a doctor&#8217;s (or dentist&#8217;s) office, I hear and watch constant insurance &#8220;transactions&#8221; &#8211; desk help asking for insurance cards, copying cards, having patients update their insurance info, calling insurance companies for pre-authorization, and on and on. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a proponent of monopolies, but it seems like it&#8217;d be a lot easier and require less work (and the associated cost) to have everything standardized. You&#8217;d still need some sort of checks and balances to keep doctors and patients from taking undue advantage of the system, but I bet a lot of what we pay in health insurance is going toward paying for inefficiency.</p>
<p>In addition, I think if the system were standardized, it would take this huge hassle off the doctors&#8217; plate, so they could focus on treating patients.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu the (not so) Wise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu the (not so) Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, I like your thinking regarding healthcare. I was perusing the financial records of a couple publicly traded insurance companies one day. With the bigger ones reporting nearly ten million dollars in earnings per quarter (not to mention the millions the executives are raking in each quarter), I wondered if insurance should be non-profit... which I guess is really just a for-profit i\organization that pays out all the profits to the executives&#039; payrolls.

But I love your solution of a doctor run insurance company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, I like your thinking regarding healthcare. I was perusing the financial records of a couple publicly traded insurance companies one day. With the bigger ones reporting nearly ten million dollars in earnings per quarter (not to mention the millions the executives are raking in each quarter), I wondered if insurance should be non-profit&#8230; which I guess is really just a for-profit i\organization that pays out all the profits to the executives&#8217; payrolls.</p>
<p>But I love your solution of a doctor run insurance company.</p>
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